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Lexa Hellfury
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Posted - 2012.07.22 18:10:00 -
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I really don't understand why CCP thought adding more tank to the game was a good idea. People keep talking about how it's a buff to solo/small gang (<5) PvP, which is not the case at all. It limits solo PvP/small gang PvP horribly. If you try to PvP in non-ASB setups, do you know what your targets are? Other non-ASB ships. It's not quite so pronounced in ATX because of the single ASB, but on TQ where double ASB is the current FoTM you cannot engage an ASB setup with a non-ASB setup.
Hell, a double ASB Myrm with a 3 slot tank tanks twice as much as a triple rep Myrm with a six slot tank and the Myrm gets a bonus to armor tanking. Anybody who thinks this is adding options to the game is a goddamn retard. |

Lexa Hellfury
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Posted - 2012.07.22 23:20:00 -
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Kallie Rae wrote:Rather than nerfing ASB's, introduce something similar for armor tanking.
Yes please continue adding more tank to the game, that way we can finally kill solo pvp. |

Lexa Hellfury
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Posted - 2012.07.24 02:47:00 -
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Robert Caldera wrote:. Lexa Hellfury wrote:Yes please continue adding more tank to the game, that way we can finally kill solo pvp. how is that? Both sides of a solo fight can field ASB fitted ships.
Ah yes the age old argument.
2007: Nano isn't broken because you can bring your own nano 2008: ECM isn't broken because you can bring your own ECM 2010: Logistics aren't broken because you can bring your own logistics 2011: t3 links aren't broken because you can bring your own t3 links 2012: ASBs aren't broken because you can bring your own ASB
If the only way to counter a module is to bring one of your own, then that module is not balanced. Everything in Eve has a counter. ASBs, atm, do not. And no, "bring more dudes" is not a counter. |

Lexa Hellfury
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Posted - 2012.07.24 13:59:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:Lexa Hellfury wrote:
If the only way to counter a module is to bring one of your own, then that module is not balanced.
Its not the only counter but the eve populace at large will simply sit and cry about it until somebody shows them how to beat it since they're too lazy to work it out on their own. Everybody else just puts in testing and practice on the test server until they understand what the mod can and can't do.
Sorry, "lol l2p noob" is not actually a valid counter-argument, please try again. If you have some magical counter to dual-ASB fit ships other than "bring 3000 dps" (otherwise known as 4-5 people), I would love to hear it. Otherwise "I have a counter but I can't tell you what it is" isn't gonna fly. |

Lexa Hellfury
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Posted - 2012.07.25 01:18:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:The point is, why is one kind of asshattery better than another? Why is it ok to run around with 5 accounts that use falcon alts and neutral reppers and afk boosting alts but its not ok to have a powerful burst tank on something?
Its all the same crap, this myth about the great small gang pvp arenas of eve and their decline is all a load of crap by people that are either unable to gank, or being ganked, small gang pvp has always revolved around who has more ships, and more firepower, just like blob warfare, only the numbers used are different.
You're not outnumbered by 20 or 30, you're outnumbered by 2 or 3 and the outcome is usually the same.
If you want to cry about whats right and fair in EVE your trail should start well before the ASB, if anything, its tipping the balance BACK towards the TRUE lone player.
So your new counter-argument is "people in eve are blobbing faggots so why even bother balancing the ASB"?
Your argument has slowly degenerated from "no no, it's fine, really" to "lol other things are gay, too" |
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